While looking through the wall street journal I found this article. Looks like meadows are coming to the main stream.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303754904577530851855...

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 thanks for sharing.

They are working on a meadow 'sod'  that can be just rolled out - interesting concept..

Out here in california we like to blame our fixation with lawns on the influx of easterners - I kid you not! I even saw it written that way in a guide book..

So I will blame new york if we have too much lawn in Ca. And the disgusting thing about lawn here is that it is all irrigated - do NOT SIT on a California lawn - it's WET!!!

That's all I got on Lawns.

thanks for article, Henry..!

Trace, you know that New Yorkers don't recognize anything west of the Hudson as being viable or civilized.

Yeah my favorite thing to do when I go back to Cleveland is to trap for beaver pelts along the Cuyahoga River in my dugout canoe.

Yeh, I heard that you're doing the beaver pelt thing on the side. How's that going?

My fellow Midwesterners are notorious for having rolling acres of irrigated lawns pumped up on composted/digested sewage sludge. Most New Yorkers are too busy or don’t care enough to have lovely manicured lawns. Besides the topo, trees and rock outcrops make it hard as well. There are places in Queens where people’s front yards are just a slab of concrete. They don’t care.

Wildflower sod has been around at least 25 years...fyi.

I'd like to know the maintenance regime subscribed to by the clients... the one at Stormking it pretty intense; and ours is run over with thistle and mugwort unless the deer are kept at bay and the whole thing weeded twice a year.

How old is your meadow?

5 yrs, beginning to see russian olive shrubs each year now too.

So, more than the three years they talked about in the article.Interesting. What was the soil like when it was planted? Russian olives are nitrogen fixers, aren't they?

It's over a septic field, so it isn't the richest soil in the world, but decent topsoil, probably a tad higher in mineral content.  It was sprayed seed mix (ernstseeds I think), the first year the lawn care idiots mowed it too early (they weren't supposed to touch it), but with some supplemental seeding it did ok.  years 2~4 the darn deer really thinned out some plants and the droughts in summer didn't help, beginning to see less queen anne's lace and black eyed susans but more lupines and bee balm.

Trying to see if the pulling has helped (used round up in a particularly bad mugwort stand - now it's just grasses) and do some deer spraying - going to try stringing as fence this winter.

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