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Comment by Vladimir Sitta on August 31, 2012 at 8:24pm

The vertical walls based on hydroponics are fundamentally unsustainable.They rely on constant monitoring by humans, they are artificial lige supporting systems unless they are fully emulating conditions that exist in nature which is rare. Unless a system is developed that invites spontaneous colonisation by plants - like porous sponge ceramics or concrete for example.Patric Blanc's walls are more shopping centre or exclusive hotel gimmicks.

Recently proclaimed as "The highest wall in the world" on one tall residential building in Sydney almost totally collapsed and had to be reinstated at great cost.Paradise Project in London also collapsed with almost all plants obliterated.Green walls as amazing as they may appear allow only development of orchestrated ecologies reliant fully on ongoing inputs, maintenance and monitoring.

I experimented with various systems from eighties and have to say that vigorous climbers with the ground contact are far more superior to any synthetic medium.

Yes, there is a place for green gtricks but they are not panacea they are purported to be.

Comment by Bruno Marques on August 28, 2012 at 11:39am

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Comment by Charles A. Warsinske on March 16, 2010 at 2:52pm
The "felt" fabric. Blanc's installations has two layers of fabric that he drips his water/fertilizer solution through. This is a non-soil installation. The plants root into the fabric and fed by the solution.
Comment by Gavin Walsh on February 15, 2010 at 1:43pm
Hey Charles.. what do you mean by nonwoven material for a base? Are you referring to the waterproof backing or the felt?
Comment by Charles A. Warsinske on August 20, 2009 at 7:49am
I've used a variety of green roof techniques which have been more or less successful. I'm gathering information about what folks have done with green walls, the materails they have used and their success. I've read quite a bit about Patrick Blanc's work but keep wondering about maintenance and costs. I'm currently looking into the nonwoven materials for a base. Any suggestions?
Comment by kavan donohue on May 19, 2009 at 8:07am
Hey Jason, looks like the department has decided to ask you to lecture this coming Fall. I know it seems like it has taken forever, and I apologize but we have been very busy restructuring our program and interviewing potential department heads. The good news is that they still want you to come and lecture and the program is doing great. I also have taken interest in your knowledge on Detroit and will be spending the next year working on urban farming and re-visioning a vision for Detroit for my thesis. Any advice would be appreciated.
Comment by Byron Douglas on May 19, 2009 at 7:11am
Thanks Jason. Will have to get hold of his new book as well.
Comment by Jason King on May 19, 2009 at 7:03am
Byron. One of the latest examples of this is Thigmotrope from the Bay Area... the epiphytes are attached to metal rods and then misted for moisture. Patrick Blanc uses many epiphytic plants on his projects - so definitely a great resource to use for inspiration. His new book explains some of the how-to as well.
Comment by Byron Douglas on May 19, 2009 at 3:13am
Has anyone used epiphytes on green walls, and if so what success rate did you have. How did you attach them to the walls, simply on a wire trellis structure or did you use something more intricate - any info would be great!
Comment by Chris on February 10, 2009 at 11:57pm
my business partner just got his MLA at Arizona and did his thesis on arid climate green roofs. We have lots of long discussions on how to do it well in arid regions. We always seem to come back to natives and some sort of watering system. His thesis is out there, I'm sure, but if you want I could get you his email.

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