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				<title>Pat S. Rosend posted an update in the group UGA College of Environment and Design: Thanks for posting this interesting information. I wish I [&#133;]</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:26:27 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this interesting information. I wish I could attend the conference. We had a similar challenge when restoring and repurposing a prison that was transferrred to our agency. It is a complicated development of private/public deelopment that seems to be working well for our community.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic who likes the new layout? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:57:04 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried, but I don&#8217;t like it either. It took me three times visiting to figure out where the forum was. I think that is one one of the best parts of the site. It has really been minimized, to the site&#8217;s detriment IMHO.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Cooling Synthetic Turf? in the forum DETAILS &#38; MATERIALS</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:49:26 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem arises if you need to do a WL install and a meter. In my county a 3&#8242; water meter is $80,000. Plus the cost of the line work itself.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Another Failed Landscape - When Ideology Trumps User Needs in the forum PLACES &#38; SPACES</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:51:13 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The park plan has outdoor event space and small gathering spaces around the perimeter. It has a playgorund area and a trail network.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Another Failed Landscape - When Ideology Trumps User Needs in the forum PLACES &#38; SPACES</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/another-failed-landscape-when-ideology-trumps-user-needs/#post-159801</link>
				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:38:36 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an LA firm on the team along with several evnironmental firms.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Another Failed Landscape - When Ideology Trumps User Needs in the forum PLACES &#38; SPACES</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:49:28 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to disagree a bit with you here. Parks serve many roles. not all have recreation opportunities. Many parks serve other functions. I think it is the term park that brings a certain image to mind.<br />
It is true that the public thinks of parks as places to go do something in, but our parks serve many other purposes.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Another Failed Landscape - When Ideology Trumps User Needs in the forum PLACES &#38; SPACES</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:34:49 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.<br />
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<span>My feeling is that this is a park designed for passive recreation. IMHO the author of the piece is speaking to a different type of park use, a more active use. This park serves a different purpose. I don&#8217;t know if I would call it a fake environment. We try to teach where and when we can. What is hard to evaluate is how t&hellip;</span><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-47562"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/another-failed-landscape-when-ideology-trumps-user-needs/page/3/#post-159818" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Playground Redesign in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:54:07 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember&#8230;<br />
Playgrounds are for kids not adults. Kids really have different interests, likes and needs from adults in outdoor spaces. Not saying the other stuff isn&#8217;t interesting, it is, but just sayin&#8217;</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Playground Redesign in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:08:34 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nrpa.org/playgroundsafety/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nrpa.org/playgroundsafety/</a><br />
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Rise &#38; Fall of LA Firms: Did Company Greed Kill Our Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:07:53 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 2x multiple on employees is not being greedy. That is going to barely cover your overhead and make a small profit. When I was in design build, we had a minimum 3x mulitple for costs to billing. 4x was optimum.<br />
Single proprietors are able to make do with less, but they do not create many additional jobs that way do they&#8230;<br />
A snazzy office doesn&#8217;t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-47018"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/rise-fall-of-la-firms-did-company-greed-kill-our-jobs/page/2/#post-160947" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Has anyone here exited the Landscape Architecture industry? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:17:37 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> </p>
<blockquote><p>The profession should mandate a 10 year license limit. Everyone has to retake the exam after holding the RLA for 10 yrs.
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Nooooo. No more testing. It is really not that hard to do this job folks. Even Dr&#8217;s don&#8217;t have to retake their boards.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Has anyone here exited the Landscape Architecture industry? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/has-anyone-here-exited-the-landscape-architecture-industry/page/4/#post-161292</link>
				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:15:03 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think an MBA in Economics is a great idea. You will find it of value whether you are an LA or not. Many LA&#8217;s would benefit from business/economic knowledge.<br />
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I left the field for about 7 years. I eventually came back, because the field I went into, airline corporate and agency sales, went into a tailspin after 9-11 and I couldn&#8217;t get a job&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-46233"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/has-anyone-here-exited-the-landscape-architecture-industry/page/4/#post-161292" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic What do you think of Coop Himmelblau&#039;s HS No. 9 school in L.A?  (Metropolis Magazine, July/August 2011 issue) in the forum PLACES &#38; SPACES</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:21:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting use of limited resources.<br />
<a href="http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/4961/high-school-9-by-coop-himmelblau.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/4961/high-school-9-by-coop-himmelblau.html</a><br />
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I don&#8217;t like it myself. Very pretentious and depressing.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Fined for Pruning a Tree in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/fined-for-pruning-a-tree/page/2/#post-162510</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In many areas Crape Myrtles are Shrubs and not trees. The inspectors should know better. Shame.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Autocad 2011 - Where do I start? in the forum TECHNOLOGY</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/autocad-2011-where-do-i-start/page/2/#post-163493</link>
				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:50:54 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience was the same. MicroStation for DOT projects. That included the landscape plans.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Autocad 2011 - Where do I start? in the forum TECHNOLOGY</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:30:32 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope that after you learn Autocad, you don&#8217;t get hired by a Microstation shop. (surprise!)</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Autocad 2011 - Where do I start? in the forum TECHNOLOGY</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:29:35 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. I think having knowledge and experience drafting is a better use in learning what Autocad can do for you and how you should use it.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Hunting in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:46:23 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Luck with your search. I work for a Park Authority also and always worry about stability. We are lucky in that politics drives park openeings, so our group (planning and development) always has plenty to do. We are operating at almost half staff these days. Operations has been decimated.<br />
The other half of our group is paid for by bond funds,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-37841"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/hunting/page/3/#post-163593" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic MLA Decision Time in the forum EDUCATION</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:38:21 +0000</pubDate>

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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic MLA Decision Time in the forum EDUCATION</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/mla-decision-time/#post-164124</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:35:08 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take the cheapest. You will never pay back the other loans.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Enough with the Sinuosity already! Santa Monica park designed by James Corner Field Operations in the forum PLACES &#38; SPACES</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say this is certianly an example of Hyper Design. I think they could cut back a bit on the paths.<br />
This view is not really an acurate vision of the plan view. Clicking thru the link provides some interesting views.<br />
I don&#8217;t like the town  square at all.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Does Our Profession Need a Union? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/does-our-profession-need-a-union/page/2/#post-164760</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:05:23 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant a non-office job like design/build. I did not mean to imply that it is not part of the LA realm. I have done both. I don&#8217;t see many design/build professionals complaining about hours  or pay. It is sell or be gone. Pretty simple. You change your perspectives about art and client input pretty quickly under those circumstances.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Does Our Profession Need a Union? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:01:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am beginning to wonder if people posting have ever worked in other fields like retail or even design/build. Employer abuse is prevelant everywhere. Without a collective voice, employees have no leverage and no say in the enterprise. I know many people will say, it&#8217;s my company why should the employees get a say at how I run it? Well they have a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-45390"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/does-our-profession-need-a-union/page/3/#post-164765" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Does Our Profession Need a Union? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:54:39 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it so sad that people have bought this propaganda hook, line and sinker. Why is management never blamed for pumping millions into bad ideas and walking away with their share and then coming back and saying&#8230;well we had some bad ideas and now have to take it out of your salary.<br />
<strong>Some info from Think Progress.com</strong><br />
As David Madland and Karla&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-43857"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/does-our-profession-need-a-union/page/3/#post-164766" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Does Our Profession Need a Union? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:42:47 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not jion an engineers union? The engineers at Boeing all belong to one.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:41:32 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm. As a municipal employee and long time taxpayer in VA I can tell you there is not actually a budget surplus in VA. It is smoke and mirrors and is dependant on stimlus funding for transportation. The current Republican governer seems to have forgotten that.<br />
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Virginia is a right to work state and does have very low union participation. It is al&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44182"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/does-our-profession-need-a-union/page/3/#post-164771" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:11:30 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giggle. I laughed a lot at your post. +1</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does management get any blame at all for the destruction of the auto industry or just the union workers who did as they were told? (While being paid middle class wages)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:29:14 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <br />
<span>That is a tough story.</span><br />
<span>My current situation is also no raises for the past three years, with the potential of two more w/o. We had some furlough days, but not extra hours for sure. My job is stable , just the pay is going the wrong way. In the late 80&#8217;s when the industry crashed, I was in a similar situation to yours except: the 20% reduction&hellip;</span><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-40899"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/a-crappy-job-is-better-than-no-job-at-all-right-how-low-would-you-go/page/6/#post-165264" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Salary Question in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/salary-question/#post-165751</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:48:53 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article answers the question for you. Good Luck. If you decide not to take the job, be sure and give a shout out to your fellow LA&#8217;s who may be interested.<br />
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<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/01/17/the-importance-of-salary-negotiation/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/01/17/the-importance-of-sala" rel="nofollow">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/01/17/the-importance-of-sala</a>&#8230;<br />
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Being able to negotiate requires being in a position of strength&#8211;you either have to be strongly desired over o&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-36762"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/salary-question/#post-165751" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Salary Question in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/salary-question/page/3/#post-165783</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:35:57 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:02:19 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you don&#8217;t even want the job. If that is the case, then ask for 50k and see what happens. At tleast you will know.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:47:12 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping the OP will answer too.</p>
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				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/salary-question/page/4/#post-165793</link>
				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you still take the job if that is what they offered?</p>
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				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/salary-question/page/5/#post-165808</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:35:01 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long has this &#8220;offer &#8221; been out thre? I have worked in a number of oranizations ad things change quickly. I would get back to them , express your interest and ask for the details. My experience has been that most companies will offer a salary number if you ask them. A HR manager will probably be better at negotiaing skills than a design&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-42680"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/salary-question/page/5/#post-165808" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic These young kids today ... in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:35:57 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Learning to delegate is an important skill. Your description makes me think you might be tough to work for. You would insist on everything the way you knew best and not let anyone &#8220;pull the wool&#8221; over your eyes because you knew how to do everything. My boss does no design work. She is a planner actually. She did when she was at my position, but&hellip;</span><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48989"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/these-young-kids-today/#post-165964" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:29:24 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said this so much better than I ever could. The one skill in the real world that is not taught in schools, is the politics of working.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Working over 40 hours? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:54:34 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or fund their staffing levels due to reduced development.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:54:05 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto on the family issues. esp. at CE firms. No sympathy there. Last of the male old school management types I guess. The little women are better off at home taking care of those things rather than taking a &#8220;man&#8217;s&#8221; job. Blech.<br />
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Also be careful about working from home or remotely. As the CE&#8217;s at my last firm found out. If you can do the work at&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48030"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/working-over-40-hours/#post-166069" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/working-over-40-hours/#post-166070</link>
				<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:34:01 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am dating myself, but my first job paid 18k. I didn&#8217;t take the job that offered me 16k:-)<br />
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This was in the late 80&#8217;s. 3 years later BOOM. The market crashed and layoffs and paycuts later I was making less than when I started. It is an unfortunate part of the cycle. One difference was that I was able to leave for another job to get more stable&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48029"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/working-over-40-hours/#post-166070" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Are there more jobs being posted? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
				<link>http://land8.com/forums/topic/are-there-more-jobs-being-posted/#post-165932</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:31:29 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is impressive. I wish I knew how to do that.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic the Apocalyptic Manifesto in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:17:05 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. An interesting read. Lots for me to think about. I hope it&#8217;s not dead. I enjoy what I do even thought it is different form what other LA&#8217;s do.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic LEED and other Certifications/Qualifications for LA&#039;s in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/leed-and-other-certificationsqualifications-for-las/#post-167863</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:48:33 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for commenting on the fees associated with various certifications. They add up quickly.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Resume Gaps:  Should times of unemployment be represented on the resume? in the forum PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE</title>
				<link>https://land8.com/forums/topic/resume-gaps-should-times-of-unemployment-be-represented-on-the-resume/#post-171899</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>like the idea of keeping a Master Job list for design work performed, but that seems more appropriate for marketing to a client rather than something to show a potential employer.</i></p>
<p>A future employer is your most important client! You absolutley must market yourself. It not a skill we are taught in school, but it is one you should embrace.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:25:28 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the heck do you find that out from a resume? You don&#8217;t. The resume is the tool to get you in the door.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Question - How many of you use GIS? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:44:22 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use it all of the time, but I never did in private practice. I think government work uses it more. It is a very expensive package and many firms just don&#8217;t want to pay the price. When I was at G&amp;O , only the main office had the software. They could export the data into ACAD files as needed. I did not know it at all when I started this position.&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48182"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/question-how-many-of-you-use-gis/#post-167712" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Back to the drawing board in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:16:21 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That link is great. The photos are incredible. We could have a discussion on each.The prison photos are interesting.<br />
I really like to see the layouts from the air.</p>
<p>You can also &#8220;see&#8221; the desert and how these communites have been dropped in.</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic Is CLARB&#039;s redline review really worth it? in the forum PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:39:59 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an FYI, we did a study of license exams a few years ago in my office and it turns out the PE exam is all multiple choice. No drawing. It probably explains why engineers can&#8217;t grade 🙂</p>
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				<title>Pat S. Rosend replied to the topic LEED and other Certifications/Qualifications for LA&#039;s in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:11:56 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on what employment track you are planning on taking. For Office/Municipal I would recommend an AICP cert. For design/build I would go more construction certification/project manager. Certified Playground designer is also good for somethings. I have seen little value in LEED for design/build or municipal works. Maybe more in private&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44230"><a href="https://land8.com/forums/topic/leed-and-other-certificationsqualifications-for-las/#post-167867" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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