Occupy Wall Street – Are you with it?

[Joshua Elam]

Hello members, lurkers and curious individuals,

 

With the frustration most of us have been feeling in this job economy, especially in our field, do you support what has started in New York, and is quickly spreading across the country? 

 

I have been following this movement for a few days, and while it is difficult to fully understand what the protest means to accomplish, I can’t help but to be drawn to it.  How do you feel?  I know a lot of us are frustrated by the job economy, might be in student loan debt, and are very insecure about the future. The occupations address these issues.

 

Share your thoughts and reactions.

[Anonymous]

“Those with power keep power, only the faces change.”

 

This time, I hope you’re wrong Rob, but you’re probably right – sad.

[Trace One]

??? romney is not corrupt? (I am assuming you will go repub, Andrew..) ..ok, if you say so..I geuss it’s ok if his church tells him he can’t vote for women’s rights,(big flip flop on that!),  the rights of minorities, or if the tea party forces him to put up some lovely electified border fence and attack Iran so the military industrial complex can continue to profit..
Great..Planned parenthood doesn’t need to serve the health needs of anybody, I geuss. We can all go out and pick the magic leaves of the forest, to treat STD’s and HIV.. 

or are you thinnking ‘electrified border fence’ Herman Cain, who thinks all bills should be one page long, and the middle class needs to pay more taxes..Oh, that is what the KOCH brothers told him to say, so I geuss he is not corrupt..

who are you going to vote for, andrew? Bachman? Ouch..no self-resepcting female can take her the least bit seriously..

let me geuss – you are going for Hawk Hilary!!!

[Steve Mercer]

There is a big difference between the Federal Reserve and the Banks! Make no mistake the Fed is in charge.  They control all the rules, including how much reserve money the Banks are required to hold.  A lot of people do not realize it but every time a Treasury bill is auctioned some one is obligated to buy it.  If foriegn or private investors do not buy it  the Fed calls all the banks and tells them what their contribution will be towards the purchase of the T bills.  Today the world uses the US currency as the worlds reserve currency.  If Austrailia wants to buy oil from Iran they have to purchase it in US dollars.  This has given our economy a huge boost over the years.  The day is coming soon though where that may cease to be the case.  Country’s like China get pissed fast when we “monitize the debt”  i.e. print more money and increase inflation.  By increasing inflation the Fed reduces the impact of those holders of T-bills on our economy.  If the Fed goes to far then the world economies will pick another countries currency to become the worlds reserve currency and that will be economic armegedon for us.  When foreign investment drys up the Fed will be forced to either increase inflation dramatically, or Congress will be forced to Raise taxes and or cut spending and right now we see a mixture of all the above.  And we are NOT out of the woods yet.  This could get really ugly.  And if it happens you will think that 2008 was the best year ever!  If you really want to have your eyes opened watch this video! http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1011PSIENDVD/PPSILC42/PR

 

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[Steve Mercer]

The fed is doing what all central banks are task with doing controlling the economy.  And in a gobal ecomomy it is not just the US the Fed has to be concerned about.  I am not making excuses for them.  I submit that maybe this Gobalization notion is not such a good idea after all.

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[Trace One]

Steve, how much ‘reserve’ the banks are required to hold is now at about nothing, due to the ‘power ‘ of the FED, which they largeley delegated to the banks..That is a big contested part of the Dodd Frank rule, and it looks like the banks are winning, with no ‘skin in the game’ being required AGAIN, despite the debacle of the bailouts. Oh yes, the FEd is very powerful!!! Except that they are ALL ex-bank CEOs, and think that the world revolves around bankers profits..

get a grip, again..

 

ps, I also recommend some paul Krugman for you, on how important it is right now for us to pay off our national debt –  NOT..Have you heard of Paul Krugman? Nouriel Roubini? Joseph Stiglitzt? Or do you just go with Steve Doocy and rolled up sleeves guy,  for your wall street opinions..

really..If you are interested, look up Gretchen Morgensen, and all of the above..spend some time reading..

[Steve Mercer]

I think you have that backwards Heather.  In the age of the internet it is much tougher for the media to controll anything.  That is why News organizations and Newspapers are struggling so. Revenue is down and the internet is the culprit.  Ordinary people now have a very useful tools for organizing.  You no longer need the media to organize.  The arab spring is a perfect example. Ordinary Americans just need to wake up and learn to use the tools and we will be a stronger democracy for it. Obama has learned how to run a campaign with it just look at his first Presidential campaign.  His campaign capitalized on the power of the internet and he was elected President as a result even though he started out as the underdog.  So start up your own party.  You are free to do so just go file the paperwork!

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[Trace One]

Stansberry have been prosecuted and covicted by the SEC for defrauding clients..See web site, Stansberry fraud. It is an aggregator web site for anti-government opinions, sweety..Is that the best you can do?

PS, you obviously don’t use the internet if you think it is hard to control..Many people are spending a lot of time making sure you don’t read about Julian Asange, Bradley Manning..Just read Drudge, and compare it to Media Matters, and you will see that media has the postential to be shut out by internet serch engines..

How about when Iran stopped all texting, for almost a week? Our government could do that with the flick of an ATandT box, that have been being installed for investigating all your e-mails, since Bush decreed that it should be so, that american can be wiretapped.

it is a handflick away..

[Steve Mercer]

I guarentee you that if the Fed is proposing legislation affecting GMO’s (genetically modified organisim) for all you fellers who don’t read.) They most certainly request (routinely) responses from Monsanto as well as the rest of the industry before the legislation is voted on.  And if you don’t believe me then you are revealing your own ignorance on how the process works!  Haven’t you ever watched C-span?  Have you ever watched a Congressional Hearing?  Where have you been… you have led such a sheltered life.

 

s.

[Steve Mercer]

Protest if you like Trace.  But the true power that every citizen holds in a democracy is their vote.  I bet you don’t even bother voting.  Are you registered?  I suspect not.

 

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[Trace One]

no voting on Monsanto, buddy, it is a company! I watch C-span, but also read Wikileaks documents..

Tar sands from Canada have not been voted on..

I do agree, however, as do the OWS people, that globalization is bad, and cannot BELIEVE THAT congress just passed Bush’s treaties to free trade up with south america – so much for anything left of the textile industry..

that is one area where tea-partiers and Ows people agree!

[Trace One]

the FEd is not p roposing legistlation..The State Dept. is lobbying foreign countries to allow GM crops in, despite all their misgivings..Our government works for Monsanto..

[Steve Mercer]

[Trace One]

what? weird conclusion, probably just a random fox news type insult..I will take it as such..I have voted in every election since Jimmy Carter, and worked for Obama, I am sorry to say, as well as some local Maine organizations…silly..

and you, Steve? How many times did you vote for Bush?

one man one vote is part of the problem, you can’t deny it – politicians spend all their time fundraising, and Citizens United opened up the floodgates to corporate influence..

I always vote, whistling “Be kind to your web-footed friends” as I go..I love it..In Fresno we use a good old pencil, to mark the ballots..But if you think it is one man one vote, you know nothing of Karl Rove’s dirty tricks in Ohio, of the republican push to bring back Jim Crow, and of citizens United, not to speak of PAC’s etc.

did you ever work for a pol? Obama was really depressing campaign to work for..and a depressing presidency..

Ralph Nader? Al Gore? Gloria Steinem? Elizabeth Warren, Greyson?where to turn, for my little teeny vote..I defy you to name a single republican worth voting for..

[Jason T. Radice]

Ahhh..you mean the Chicago way? As Al Capone once said, “Vote early, vote often.”

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