These are some great inputs.. i really appreciate the advice. So what I gather is that Sketchup is the typical ‘framework’ that most people use as a base from which to build complexity with a rendering program, whether it be Kerkythea (free), Vue Infinitie or Vray. Rhino and 3Ds Max Design are complete modelling and rendering programs then? Sorry if I’m confusing these a bit, but I just want to be sure that I’m understanding this correctly.