a comment to JJ comment (?)
“The greatest designer is normal people—the best cities in the world were not designed” – my frien i think we may include that in the design category. not in the academic kind, but in the category of the design made by specific needs of people, but is design.
if t. Church said that the gardens are made for people (and god, i can´t be compared with this guru) i say they are only possible if made with people, that sometimes have the terrible act of doing things for them selfs 🙂
This is the design-type i like best – the one wo fits the necessities of the people.