February 16, 2011 at 6:12 pm #164936
You’ve got a signed contract in hand for a residence (remodel or new)… for your design ideation do you go to the web or your library of books?February 16, 2011 at 8:00 pm #164952
Interesting question Anne,
During ideation, I tend to go to books first, and then web. I go to web first and then books for illustrations/samples.
But, I am of a pre-web age, so I have collected lots of reference over the years. I think you will find a real age divide on this question.February 16, 2011 at 8:25 pm #164951
Matthew Anders, PLAParticipant
It’s always good to have a published hard copy of references, it’s more credible. Much stuff on the web is proprietary. However the web is good for pics and examples like Mark said.February 16, 2011 at 8:43 pm #164950
Thomas J. JohnsonParticipant
Agreed… take-in the base plan and site photos, combine those with the clients program (in your minds eye) and meditate on it until you “see”… sometimes inspiration strikes immediately, sometimes it takes a bit of sketching… I rarely look at other peoples work for ideation, unless I’m really stuck. Even then, you have to take it in your own direction to the point that the connection is broken. Why do it if it’s been done before…? Plus you have the issue of Intellectual Property if you’re copying other peoples designs.February 16, 2011 at 9:36 pm #164949
Wes Arola, RLAParticipant
I often look at a library of photos that I have taken of others projects that I have categorized into albums. It really depends on the project and if an idea hasnt come to mind after giving it some time.
———->what are some image engines that are landscape architecture or design oriented that are usefull?
http://archlandscapes.com/ is a site a collegue of mine put together which has some thought provoking case studies!February 16, 2011 at 9:50 pm #164948
Ideation? Did you just coin a word?
I have a mental map of what is where, a bit of organized chaos. I find chaos to be an often overlooked and under appreciated aspect of the design process. So often we operate on well informed whims based on current flavors we enjoy tempered with the knowledge of what works from past experiences. Do I go to books? Yes. Do I go to my digital library? Yes.
Books for me are great for when I get stuck, and my digital library is great because I have it well organized by typology, so when I need to pull from something specific, I pull from there.February 17, 2011 at 12:27 am #164947
Thomas J. JohnsonParticipant
Awesome site! Thanks!February 17, 2011 at 12:35 am #164946
To Henry and Thomas’ points, I don’t look around much at ideation. I do look for textures, materials, details, construction techniques–especially if it is in a heritage that I am rusty at, or unfamiliar with. I like to kind of flood myself with the vernacular (much as Jon suggested), but I usually do it after the rough space planning/program is settled.
I do have a funny story about pictures– I had a client who loved Barragan and she wanted some elements of his style in her (somwhat small) courtyard. The centerpiece was a water feature ala his. When we turned it on, it had the most awefull sound– like water coming out of a hose into a really cheap bathtub. I looked around to see my client standing in the doorway, she turned to me and said “Well, that doesn’t sound like the picture–does it? Ha!February 17, 2011 at 12:42 am #164945
Both, plus book stores.February 17, 2011 at 1:18 am #164944
Andrew Garulay, RLAParticipant
Ding! Program to Site
… on buildings under construction or re-landscapes,somewhere along the way I have developed a habit where I pause the “ideation”(if I have a clue on what that means) between the time I start measuring details on the site and finish the existing conditions plan. Then I restart and move forward with a much deeper understanding of the site. I don’t know when I started that habit, but I noticed it about two years ago. I like the way it works out for me.
I don’t like to search for ideas directly for a project so much as drawing off of what I learned and continue to learn from studying other landscapes over the years. I’m not saying it is THE right way, but just one person’s way. Different people function differently and landscape design is richer for it.February 17, 2011 at 2:20 am #164943
David J. ChiricoParticipant
Here is an artist with some very creative work. I wonder where he draws his inspiration…
He has a very interesting book on art in the landscape as well.February 17, 2011 at 3:04 pm #164942
Definitely lean more heavily on the books!
I haul a ton of design books with me to the client meeting and use them to help root out their tastes, likes, dislikes, maintenance interestes and capabilities, etc and often use the books to help describe the potential I see for the site based on their preferences – they get drawings too, but it really helps them to ‘see’ how we ‘see’… I use them to include the client in the ‘ideation’ process. A client who really understands the design and process behind it can really hold their own against the constant pressure of contractor change orders for materials, plants, etc.
This process helps us both see out of the box and keeps me from designing the same gardens over and over again, particularly in an area where climate and deer dictate use of a very limited plant palette.February 17, 2011 at 3:29 pm #164941
I was kinda thinking I’d see an age divide too…but I’m similar to you (maybe I’m older than I think?)…books first for sure, then web for specifics or details or just additional imagery.February 17, 2011 at 3:33 pm #164940
HA! that is funny!February 17, 2011 at 3:34 pm #164939
You know… I’ve caught myself doing that too! I’ve tried public libraries but they never seem to have the strongest set of design books like a book store.
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