In Case of Emergency- What if this Tag-Team Actually Wins ?

[mark foster]

Is it any wonder we are playing a guessing game about a possible Republican administration?  

State republicans ran on economy and budget in 2010, and they gave us union busting, abortion restrictions, and voter suppression.  Not exactly truth in advertising.

[Jordan Lockman]

[Trace One]

Jordan, you are not reading about the voter supression efforts of the GOP? Two cases at least have gone to court – the GOP writing rules that limit times that voting places are open (less time in Democratic counties), requireing photo id ‘s that have an expiration date  – I beleive at least two of these rules have been thrown out of court, so if you have not even noticed it you need to change your news sources. As for the ‘power’ of unions, raise  your hand if you have EVER belonged to a union? They are almost non-existent in america, after years of ‘right-to-work’ votes, etc., etc..If you read articles that compare the money unions spend on elections to the money spent by conservative groups like ALEC, it is not a fair game – Unions deal in the hundres, ALEC deals in the millions. You can look it up, and I suggest you try. Even the Chicago teachers union deal was not a good one, especially looking at the garbage teachers get for salaries and huge class sizes, these days.

What do you read for news? Really, I am curious. I can suggest some excellent news sources for  you, if you are interested. Democracy depends on an educated public.

[Trace One]

http://www.thenation.com/blog/169709/voter-suppression-confederacy-rises-again

voter supression served up for you, Jordan.

[Trace One]

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/06/06/right-wing-media-disappear-fact-that-conservati/135048

and here is union money vs. ‘dark’ money – just one article. There is no contest, particularly with the disdain many young people hold unions in these days – it all goes along with the “What is the matter with Kansas” problem  of people thinking that unions don’t work for them, and voting against them. Walmart isn’t even unionized. The power of unions today is NOTHING compared to what is was in the fifties – literally nothing. Years of active anti-union activity and propaganda have driven the power that the people should have against corporations almost out the door. Citizens United put a nail in the coffin.

[mauiBob]

Voter suppression? It’s happening in several states!! Ohio, Wisconsin, PA, SC and two others I can’t recall at this moment. Easy to search it. It’s the GOP’s way of limiting the Pres Obama voters. With Mittens latest snafu…he’s making his own grave.

[mauiBob]

YES!! We don’t want to go back to that delusional 5% unemployment rate which lasted…a mere 9 months. The Bush tax cuts account for almost 30% of the current federal deficit. During those 8 years, we saw the largest income disparity between the middle class vs top 2% wage earners in U.S. history. The housing crisis slowly began in Fall of 2007. Last time I checked, Pres Obama came into office on Jan 20, 2009!!

[mauiBob]

LP: “obnoxious buzzing from another pest with the repeatedly demonstrated lower intelligence of an insect,  that virulent west-nile  virus infested mosquito, nicknamed MauiBob.”

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!! Yes, really.

Wait for my rebuttal on your comment below regarding getting rid of the Clean Air Act, EPA, etc. when I get the proper time. I’ll offer facts and figures to support my opinion. Oohhh goody…let’s go back to trusting our corporations in cleaning up after themselves and putting people ahead of profits. We all know they would NEVER dump harmful chemicals in our stream, lakes, oceans and pollute the air. No way, jose. 

[mauiBob]

The first requirement to be a Republican is a susceptibility to self-hypnosis. Right now, millions of Republicans are hypnotizing themselves to like Mitt Romney, who is neither conservative nor Christian nor authentic nor possessed of the common touch. He is completely foreign to the base or core of the Republican Party. Therefore, the hypnosis will have to be deep and of some duration.

Romney hasn’t even gotten the jargon down. He seems to be comfortable nowhere. In the South, he seems like a carpetbagger. To other Americans, he seems like a cultist. On the Pacific Coast, he seems like a phony. In the Midwest, where he was against lending money to the car manufacturers, he seems like a liar.

But hypnosis is a powerful tool of self-delusion. Millions voted for Bob Dole and the mock-hero from Arizona, John McCain. Millions thought Sarah Palin was qualified for high public office. Self-mesmerization is a powerful tool. It it weren’t for self-hypnosis, delusion, illusion and hormonal auras, most of us would never have been born.

The recent video of Romney attacking 47% of americans…hard-working, poorly paid americans as moochers without responsiblity will surely do him in. We all have thought that he lives in a different world and is only interested in benefiting the rich. In this video, we see and hear Romney making these very statements! His indifference, insensitivity and arrogance which we all felt to a degree have now been confirmed by Romney himself! The 47% actually do pay some form of taxes: social security, payroll, etc…but the standard deductions found in the tax form which everyone enjoys allows these lower income group to avoid paying “additional” taxes.

I kept telling my Republican friends to vote for Ron Paul or Rick Santorum and keep Mittens out. But, Noooo!! I would’ve voted for Ron Paul and strongly considered Santorum. Mittens was and still is a complete and utter joke!! I guess Mittens is part of the 47% because he hides his money in off-shore accounts to avoid paying taxes.

[Jordan Lockman]

[Jordan Lockman]

MauiBob your points carry more weight when you don’t name call.

[Jordan Lockman]

The prob. this year is that the GOP just does not have a charismatic candidate. Bummer. In a system built on compromise you just can’t have the perfect candidate.

[Trace One]

Unions were the largest anonymous donors? Where does that come from? I call BS on that.

The trouble with this kind of stuff is that most people really can’t hear the opposing viewpoints, and don’t want to. The fact that there has not been one documented case of voter fraud, but systemic voter supression efforts on the part of the GOP  will not impinge on your views, Jordan. For some reason GOP can’t sympathize or hear the old vets who do not have id’s with expiration dates, with old ladies who don’t drive an need long hours to get to the polls…You won’t hear it..

I did some phone banking for Obama last time, and man was that useless. Calling people and asking them who they were going to vote for.

So, good luck with your ideas, Jordan. I do not see the world that way. I reallly liked hearing Patrick Stewart say he did   not know how to talk to conservatives, they made him uncomfortable. He actually calls himself a socialist, something you are not allowed to do in America.

I think one place to start is to stop letting the representatives sleep in their offices – it is disgusting. They used to have to live in the same neighborhoods in DC, their children would go to the same schools (I am a DC ex-pat..). Now they live in their offices and fly home on weekends. Tip ONeil and ronald Reagan would never have gotten along if they did not live together in the same city. Just one of my pet peeves..

[Jordan Lockman]

[Trace One]

That still doesn’t prove that union contributions exceed GOP donor contributions – Sheldon Adelson alone bankrolled Gingrich’s entire bid for the presidency this time. The numbers don’t compare. And yes, it may be nice for you to see your congressman, but it would be nice if they could treat each other like humans,  and I think this sleeping in the offices is really disgusting. I think this era started with Dick Cheney saying “F## you! to Senator Leahy on the floor of the senate, and Boehner getting down there with his tobacco company checks and handing them out, while congress was in session. Gack! Senator Leahy is one of my favorites.

No, I don’t think people really listen to opposing viewpoints, Jordan, especially these days when phrases have become very ready at hand to everyone, to avoid the truth, and when, of course, “the truth has a liberal bias.”

The affordable Healthcare act has many moving parts but at least Obama got something done, even with the GOP vowing to oppose absolutely everything he does just because he does it – what a waste of time the GOP has been. Obama said the only people who treat him like that other than the GOP are the Russians, and he has even gotten somewhere with them, but nowhere with the GOP.

Sorry if your wife looses her job – that is terrible! But personally I am really glad about the pre-existing conditions parts of Affordable Care Act, and I am also glad because the health system is really broken ,and at least he made a start. I think single-payer is the only way to go.

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