Tagged: GENERAL DISCUSSION
July 7, 2019 at 8:10 pm #3557890
July 7, 2019……Once again, let’s look at the LAND 8 “Job Board”. 95% of the jobs
are located in places like California, New York, CT., Washington State, etc. Only a couple of jobs are in locations where the cost of living is reasonable and where there are no State Income Taxes.
People and corporations are leaving both California & New York…big time. I mean, look at all of the problems…especially in Southern California with homelessness and major housing shortages. Add forest fires, mud slides, high taxes, ridiculous cost of living, high gasoline prices and don’t forget earthquakes.
I STILL maintain, “location” where you are employed as an LA is important to consider.
For me, I always looked at “everything” in a city/state before I would consider interviewing with an LA firm. Even things like weather, politics, entertainment activities available, just everything.
There ARE many other Job Boards….like INDEED.com and many others. I would recommend checking other job boards out as well…for some better job options (locations).July 19, 2019 at 5:45 pm #3558022
July 19th…..again, looking at the LAND 8 job board today. 95% of the LA job openings are in locations like California, CT., New York…high cost of living and high state income tax states. I see a few jobs located in Florida…but, you have to be aware that the State of Florida requires a pretty challenging “State of Florida Landscape Architecture Exam”…in order to become a licensed LA in that State. Of course, there are TONS of other Job Boards on the Internet…maybe those have more favorable “locations” for LA jobs.September 9, 2019 at 4:50 pm #3558242
An LA JOB OPPORTUNITY……in HANOI, VIETNAM, really?????? Wait a minute, I enlisted in the U.S. Navy and served 4 years (partly to stay OUT of Vietnam).
Still…looking at the LAND 8 job list. Sure glad I’m NOT a young LA searching for an LA job in the U.S…..way too many jobs in just undesirable cities/States, IMO. I do see a small handful of descent locations/opportunities…but, too few.September 10, 2019 at 1:32 pm #3558248
Just my opinion here (on this thread and others on LAND 8)…if you’re going to express an opinion or try to hold yourself out as an “expert” on any subject with regards to Landscape Architecture…or be critical of other members here on LAND 8…maybe you should have a NAME and PROFILE…and too, seeing some PORTFOLIO samples would be helpful. If a member is employed by a specific LA firm, that would be interesting to know as well. IMO, credibility matters when I’m reading different member’s comments here on LAND 8.
If a member here on LAND 8 is “Anonymous”, how do we know they are even enrolled in a University studying Landscape Architecture, an LA graduate or what their experience level is?October 4, 2019 at 12:58 pm #3558314
I thought that this post might help people do their research for US states and regions. There’s an infographic with job density and median wage for each state. Cost of living not factored in (and of course can vary really wildly within a state.)
Landscape Architects: Salaries and Prospects
Interesting to note that nationally LA wages increased faster than inflation last year, though! Some of the wage variation probably due to licensing, although I have no idea what’s going on in Tampa, then, since Florida does have degree requirements.October 4, 2019 at 9:51 pm #3558315
To: FeelandPed. I looked at the LINK you provided. IMO, this info. is NOT accurate. For example…the median LA income in California cities are WAY TOO HIGH. I did additional research and found that in CALIFORNIA….the Median Salary runs between $52,000.00 and $65,000.00. The ONLY way you’re going to earn a SIX figure income in California OR in any other State is….if you OWN your own LA firm OR are a Principal in a major LA firm.
Salaries are just NOT very good…especially the first 5 to 10 years. And the Bureau of Labor and Statistics recently LOWERED their job outlook for LAs for the next 10 years from 6% to 4%….that doesn’t look good to me.
Reading the LINK you included. It stated that MORE THAN 50% of Landscape Architects are working for Architecture or Civil Engineering Firms…..IMO, that’s a PROBLEM. Those are NOT where young LAs are going to really LEARN all they need to know to be a successful Landscape Architect. I guess some people will say, well, a job is a job……of course, everyone needs employment after graduation, but, working for an Architect or CE firm is not IMO a good place to be….unless those firms have LARGE talented LA departments.
And….just NOW looking at the LAND 8 Job Board…..I counted maybe 5 jobs out of that ENTIRE LIST that were NOT located in high cost of living – high State income Tax Cities/States. I just don’t believe that the Owners of an LA firm are going to offer an LA MORE $$$ just because the Firm is located in California, New York or another high cost of living area. Best do a TON of research on a City and State before you commit to an LA job in a specific area.
J. Robert (Bob) WainnerOctober 6, 2019 at 7:42 am #3558316
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High cost of living states are typically states that have a large wealthy population (in numbers, not percent of population)and “big business”. Those are places where more money is spent on things that landscape architects do. That in turn means more opportunity. That is why you see job advertisement in those areas.
Also, high tax states are states that spend a lot of money – not saying that is a good thing, just that it is a fact. Some of that money is spent on big projects that require “landscape architecture”. Another reason you see job listings in those states.
I’m not advocating for high cost of living states, but it is reality that this is why you see jobs in those areas and not in Appalachia.
A lot of landscape architecture is driven by the local value of aesthetics. While everyone enjoys nice aesthetics, not everyone values aesthetics enough to pay for it. When we are talking about developers spending money on aesthetics it needs a return on investment. They don’t get that return in areas where it does not give them a marketing advantage and they will lose return on investment if others are gaining a competitive advantage through aesthetics in their market.
Basically, landscape design is a “keep up with the Jonse’s” industry. If the Jonse’ s are looking good the Smith’s will follow. If the Jonse’s don’t have anything the Smith’s will be content to do the same.
No matter what area of the profession you work, or what region you are in, you won’t get anywhere without the Jonse’s valuing what you do.October 6, 2019 at 8:33 pm #3558317
The point I was trying to make all along is…..(well, of course there will most likely be more job opportunities for LAs in larger cities – even some mid-size cities). But, if you look at the “majority” of the jobs listed on the LAND 8 Job Board, they are located in “high cost of living that are also high State tax cities”.
Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York City….plus, cities like Boston, Washington, D.C., Detroit and Chicago…these are “high cost of living and high State tax locations” because they are predominately run by Democrats. Compare those city’s/States to Cities and States that where Republican leadership is found….you’ll find both lower costs of living and lower State income taxes. Cities like Phoenix, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, etc…have reasonable costs of living. Texas and Florida do not have State Income Taxes. Arizona has a 3% to 5% State Income Tax and Georgia has a 1% to 5% State income tax. I realize this is a bit of a “political” spin on this issue…but, I’ve done the research, and it’s true. A LOT of people are moving out of NY and California…due to the high costs of living and high State Income Taxes…that should tell you a lot.
And, NO, I do NOT believe that just because a STATE has higher income taxes, that money goes to an especially good cause…certainly doesn’t go to assist the “Landscape Architecture Profession’.
LA graduates and even those with a LOT of experience should do their research on the City & State where they are considering even going for an LA job interview. Determine IF you believe you could afford to live in that City on the Salary you believe you will be offered? Because, there are HUGE differences between several Cities…need to go in with your “eyes wide open”.
J. Robert (Bob) Wain
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