Macs Vs PCs

[J. Thomas Gebauer]

Also, PC’s are easier to upgrade. I was able to buy a laptop and use it through my 5 years by simply upgrading my RAM and hard drive. Parts for PC’s are easy to find and cheap compared to buying Mac parts.  Which also leads to being able to have a more powerful machine if you buy the right parts.

[mauiBob]

You do realize that Autocad is now in Mac version?

[J. Thomas Gebauer]

I don’t know computer viruses by name. So I can’t argue against your arbitrary numbers. But if you doubt my grad student story I seriously question if you were ever in a LA program… ALL of the grad students used ArcMap GIS products at my school. Plus every undergrad has to use it for one studio as well. All I’m saying is that getting a Mac can lead to headaches.

[mauiBob]

That’s because Macs don’t break down and why upgrade when the Mac you originally purchased is already superior? That’s why you pay more for upfront cost on a Mac and save later. Less overall upgrades!!!

So you buy 2 or 3 Windows based machines and say it cost you less than 1 Mac? Beautiful.

[J. Thomas Gebauer]

I forgot that Mac’s were built with magical hardware that never becomes out of date. In case you haven’t noticed, all hardware becomes out of date eventually. Hard drives get bigger, more memory becomes available. I never have had a part on my Lenovo laptop break, but I have upgraded hardware as previously mentioned. I run all the newest software and operating system on my unit w/o any problems and my overall system is 5 years old. Any computer, no matter who makes it eventually goes out of date. You can pay $2k for a new Mac then it’s out of date in three years and buy another $2k Mac or you can buy a $1.1k PC then buy $150 in parts in three years. I realize you hate PC’s. I don’t hate Macs but they are just unreasonably high priced. As I mentioned in my original post there are benefits to Mac’s. I’d at least consider getting one if they weren’t ridiculously high priced and associated with pomposity.

http://www.switched.com/2009/09/01/apple-quietly-admits-macs-get-viruses/

[ALEX P]

Woof.

This is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. And you get to carry a free brick with you where ever you want because the battery life is so crappy. Lots of great reasons to own a PC.. I personally love Ctrl + Alt + Delete.  I would be so ashamed to carry around anything that even resembeled a pc, or even worse when pc’s copy of a mac..see sony viao. Yes, they look great when you bring them home… 3 months later after all the virus it looks like something pulled out of titanic (if even that good).  

 

DO NOT BUY A PC. 

 

PS. MACS HAVE AUTO CAD, AND IT IS WAAAAYYYY BETTER!

[ALEX P]

head aches??? and pcs are just peachy… ever heard of the blue screen of death?

[ALEX P]

Robert, you are so smart! Thank you.

[mauiBob]

You don’t know any Mac virus because there’s virtually none out there, unlike the PC world. Just trying to clear up your earlier comment. You could never be a Mac user; its not in your DNA. Although, you probably own an iPod. That’s because your computer department is backed up by Windows based companies. ArcMap is given to Universities for free in hopes students use it in their profession careers. Go visit your Art department and tell me what computers they are using.

If you doubt me, then I guess my classmate at Idaho is also fiction? You haven’t been a member on Land8 long enough. http://land8lounge.com/group/uila

 

Try actually owning a Mac AND PC, then compare and come to your conclusions. All of your comments lean toward a PC with no past experience owning a Mac. Macs are actually easier to upgrade and PC Magazine even made note of it. Get educated on both platforms. Its the same about people who make vague remarks about BMW cars without ever driving or owning a model.

 

[mauiBob]

Lenovo??! That’s like driving only a Chevy Aveo and calling it best car in the world. All the souped up PCs I see on Best Buy or PC World are also $2k and up. Lenovo products last about 13 months tops before it blows up. A current Mac laptop would still be in use 100 years from now…with no upgrades and virus free.

 

[Tosh K]

Depends on what software you’re required to use – I went with an old mac to school and used their machines for the first year (most of our work could be done adequately and I chose to do a lot more hand models and drawings); bought a top of the line mac laptop that hasn’t slowed done yet (5 years later).  I had to use the school computers for Rhino and ArcMap, but ran AutoCAD just fine running a virtual windows environment.

 

Top of the line PCs with comparable processors, RAM and a good graphics card will run similar to a Mac.  Just make sure you’re buying quality.  I’ve seen first hand students losing their computers right in the rush of the end of semester – it’s ugly (and happens both to PCs and Macs, for some reason the macbooks from a few years back came with a sensitive drive).

 

I found my mac laptop was faster than the school’s pc desktops in Adobe software in the first year, but the upgraded computers did better the following.  Generally, my experience is that with laptops macs tend to be more bang for your buck (and will last you a couple of years longer without slowing down); pc desktops with a little less fire power would probably get you through school at considerably less cost than mac ones.

 

As far as AutoCAD goes, can anyone verify that the current mac version runs stably as the windows version?  I keep on hearing about stability issues.

[J. Thomas Gebauer]

http://www.consumersearch.com/laptops/reviews  Lenovo are top.

 

Internet tough guy, you are.

[Tim Zhang]

Mac now has Autocad, but you can’t use any express tools, tool palettes, e-transmit, one workspace limit, filter, quick select, in-place edit for blocks and xrefs, and dozens of other features firm use on a daily basis. While it might get you through school work, why would you handicap  the developmental years of your career by limiting urself to only the basic features of the one software that every single new professional will need to use? If Mac is better, why is almost every single firm PC based? For those who say that you can run Windows on Mac… why would you pay hundreds of dollars extra for a windows license?

 

With a 500 dollar PC you can do everything you’ll need to get through MLA. So get a PC. Get a Mac if you are the type of people who likes to look cool inside Starbucks, who drinks a single cup of mocha over a course of 8 hours while blogging in Helvetica and editing clips you took of your dog in iMovie.

[Greg Burwood]

I was a PC user for years then changed to mac. Best decision of my life.

I now have windows 7 running on bootcamp (restart) or through vmware (on the fly). When I do switch (for 3dmax) I can’t wait to get back to the mac environment. Apart from max (starting to use rhino for mac) I only ever go back to update antivirus and maintenance- end up fiddling + wasting my time with just trying to keep windows happy.

As I said, I never use windows now.

macs are also not as expensive as they say if you compare apples with apples as far as I’m concerned. The apps are excellent and seamless integration with iphone, ipad etc.

I applaud apple for making sure developers follow strict coding and design requirements. Sometimes less freedom is more freedom.

apologies if I sound like a fanboi !

anyway best of luck.

 

[mauiBob]

Obviously you are getting your info from Autodesk’s Mac support and services page which show what cad features are not available in Autocad for Mac. Since you don’t use Macs, you don’t really know its limitations in first hand experience. Show some patience. This is the first year Autodesk made Autocad available on the latest Mac OX. Of course there will be trials and errors. Do you remember Autocad ver 12 in year 2000? Did that version have e-transmit, tool palettes, etc? Give the programmers some time. How about Windows 95…it was sooo perfect, why make Windows XP or Vista, right?

Why are most Graphic design and advertising agencies use Macs? Because Photoshop and many other graphic softwares were first developed for Macs. Adobe had a partnership with Apple during the early 1980s. Windows based computers just happen to be a preferred choice in the A&E field because of engineers. It doesn’t mean its superior because the mass of firms use it. There were no Autocad for Macs in year 1988.

Choose quality over a cheap, $500 PC that breaks or becomes infested with viruses by end of semester. Mac people look cool inside AND outside of Starbucks! And lastly, all you so-called Mac critics use Apple products in some shape or form. Like my co-worker who said she just doesn’t understand Macs, but owns an iPod, iPhone and regularly downloads songs from iTunes. Go figure! Be sure you don’t blur the vision between Apple the company and Mac computers.

Apple computers figured out those Mac vs PC days are way over! Apple learned to adapt and innovate, while everybody is a step behind. Tablet computers have made PC based Windows irrelevant to the general public. That is the future, not desktop computing.

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