WHY IS "ASLA"…..LIBERAL???

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    WHY…is it so very obvious, that “ASLA” is….politically LIBERAL??? IMO, Landscape Architecture has not business being involved in the AMERICAN Political System…..Landscape Architecture should NOT be LEFT or RIGHT.

    And, WHY do I also believe a vast MAJORITY of University Landscape Architecture Professors are also VERY LIBERAL! That they have “liberal agendas”, so that’s how many of their Graduating Students lean when they graduate….to the LEFT.

    America is too divided enough as it is…..NOW, I see that Landscape Architecture has become DIVIDED politically. Just no excuse for it, IMO,

    J. Robert (Bob) Wainner

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    J. Nielsen
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    Robert, you might want to change out whatever you got on your hook. No one appears to be taking the bait.

    JN

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    Mark
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    Imo, industries slated for early on “AI” replacement were only sold software, Silicon Death Valley never reached out to them like they did game dev, weapons tech, and entertainment, med, finance, etc.

    So what in the heck does that have to do with industries which are political puppets? That is what they are used for in the meantime. After the next world war or whatever “birthing” method they have for the new model world, AI will be highly specialized for certain industries which can be “streamlined” by intelligence planned corporatism. This is why engineering, architecture and landscape architecture are actually as industries so far behind the automation curve, that the digital mainlined industries have now taken their automation to AI.

    And I don’t mean true “intelligence”, I mean a nice “active x” like buzzterm which markets advanced parallel networking and some highly refined “smart” software. It is enough to replace the current “collective brain” of many dinosaurs. For example, for surveying, the already have data of the earth that can “detect” live and real-time piss ant “earthworks”. But, how do you “slide that in” and not replace all surveyors tomorrow? That is the kind of questions they are trying to answer. In fact, one theory is, they just stick it in in a new transformational phase of civilization coming exponentially the last hundred years in that time’s next ten years, in I would say about 15 years before they can really start it up globally.

    That is why AIA and ASLA and others are literally, with all due respect “brain dead” by design. AI can very quickly do a better job in the hands of that industries “next generation”, imo, that is the feeling of the big computer complex “brain” out there.

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    Tim Daugherty
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    Bob – do you know what the biggest predictors of voting preference are? 1. Level of Education, 2. Where you Live (City vs Country), and 3. Religious participation (not to be confused with affiliation).

    It’s safe to assume a significant majority of all LA’s have a college eduction. And most live in the City (or suburbia).

    Add to this the likelihood most LA’s probably have a strong relationship with natural systems, the environment, ecology, etc.

    And if all that isn’t enough, which party/ideology has been on the attack against licensure?

    C’mon, it’s not THAT hard to connect the dots.

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    “WHY…is it so very obvious, that “ASLA” is….politically LIBERAL??? IMO, Landscape Architecture has not business being involved in the AMERICAN Political System…..Landscape Architecture should NOT be LEFT or RIGHT.

    And, WHY do I also believe a vast MAJORITY of University Landscape Architecture Professors are also VERY LIBERAL! That they have “liberal agendas”, so that’s how many of their Graduating Students lean when they graduate….to the LEFT.

    America is too divided enough as it is…..NOW, I see that Landscape Architecture has become DIVIDED politically. Just no excuse for it, IMO,

    J. Robert (Bob) Wainner”

    You propose that professionals should not have any involvement in politics. That’s exactly what the professions did in the “Progressive” movement in the late 1800s and first half of the 1900s was doing…. getting into politics and to establish licensure. There’s no separation between professions and politics or life, values, beliefs, and politics. This country was never truly UNITED. Europeans stole an entire continent engaging in biological warfare and in genocide to take this continent from those who were already here. The same very Europeans infestation that imported slaves from another continent.

    Without political involvement, we would still have slaves and discrimination. We also would be using coal and oil for everything. We wouldn’t have the EPA, building codes, or any of that. Advocacy has been a part of professional associations since their conception. Yes, there was a time period were professions wanted to be apolitical. Apolitical is apathy and apathy is passively condoning the wrongs in the world instead of making the world a better place. Isn’t making the world a better place the mission and point of architecture and landscape architecture? Isn’t that what you are trying to do in your practice including by the client. Each client, an opportunity to make the world better one little project at a time.

    In my opinion, there is no “Right”. There is the political “Left” and the political “wrong” (IMO). The Left isn’t always right. The other side is inherently and totally wrong these days because they rejected morality, responsibility, and any sense of giving two seconds of ones own life to care for others. They are Trumps and followers of that racist KKK ‘member’ who is also anti-“non-white” and supports and authorized and ordered the U.S. Border Patrol to engage in criminal kidnapping. These are the kinds of people who wants to reverse civil rights, re-institute slavery, women no longer having any liberties to work, and being gainfully employed and subordinate to men and non-whites have no rights.

    If you know the history of the United States, it isn’t the b.s. you grew up learning in school because it was politically “WHITE-washed” and written in the perspective approved by rich white men who financed the criminal takeover of this continent and genocide of the various indigenous people of this continent along with also in South America where Europeans were likewise the same. Manifest Destiny was the inspiration and precedence for Mein Kampf. In World War II, the vast majority of every able man and even women took part in stopping the global takeover of Hitler’s plan for taking over the world for world domination of white supremacy, genocide, slavery/concentration camps, and so forth.

    U.S. expansion was founded on atrocity. If you live west of the Atlantic seashore, a good chance is you are living on land that is the rightful property of native Americans that were here thousands of years before we came here. If we were to do what was morally right, this land would be given back to the native American and we go back to the lands of our ancestral history but that’s now complicated and is now unrealistic of happening.

    The truth is we are divided and always have been. We have been only to some degree politically united but that’s not to say we are homogenous. There are people who will not want to be culturally neutered through culturally oppressive cultural assimilation processes like that which is the norm of American “unification” meaning…. all must become “white”. Talk like “white”. Believe like “white”. Dress like “white”. Work like “white”. It’s a complicated story.

    I think as a profession advocating environmentally sound, and sustainable architecture & landscape, is something as a profession we should be advocating for and backing in politics relating to policies that impacts the environment and the world. We have a professional obligation to take every reasonable effort to make the world better. Much like doctors oath of not doing harm. We have a sort of similar obligation. I’m a building designer/landscape designer. Well, I kind of do building design, interior design, landscape design as part of a holistic design process.

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