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[Jason T. Radice]

Nope, all the testing is done on PCs

 

I can see getting rid of one of the multiple choice sections, that always made sense. I have mixed feelings about the charretes however. The computer may make things too easy for site design and grading, like it is with the AREs. The facilities will at least be equalized now, as I very much disliked the facility where I took my charettes, but even that was better than the horror stories I heard about where old-school LAs took them. Hopefully this will also lead to specific testing dates. Once it is all on the computer, it can be structured to be given at any time, like the AREs or LEED exams.

[BZ Girl]

I have a friend who is in this very situation you just described. He has passed all sections except section D, which i believe he has taken 3 times now. ‘Wow’, you might be saying ‘this guy sure doesn’t know construction very well. He must be pretty dense to take it 3 times without passing.’ But this guy owns his own design build firm!! He, of all my landscape architect friends, is the most well-informed about construction details, methods, processes etc. Just another example of how the LARE is so far off the mark in terms of testing pertinent, accurate, and useful information in the field of landscape architecture.

 

I too question the one-year window, given that the LARE has such a tremendously high fail rate and thus re-take rate (I know TONS of people who have had to take a section 2, 3, 4 times before passing!!)  If a candidate has only one section left to pass, that’s only 2 shots to get a passing score before you’re totally screwed and risk losing a ton of time and money spent on the previous tests. CLARB should extend the transition period to 2 years. But then again, why would they? This is just another fantastic ploy to rake in more profits at the expense of the candidates.

[Douglas M. Rooney]

MLCC, that is not how I read CLARB’s transition plan. If you only have section E left to go and you do not pass it before the new exam starts, then you will get credit for Sections 1, 2, and 3, but will have to take section 4 which costs more and repeats part of section D. You will not have to take section 3 as previously passing section C and D will give you credit for section 3. I think the only person that might get really screwed is someone who has passed everything BUT section D. They would lose credit for sections C and E and have to complete BOTH section 3 and 4 to cover the previous section D.

[MLCC]

Everybody,

You ought to read the FAQs on CLARB’s website. What Veronica has conveniently failed to mention is that, due to the assimilation of Section D into the new Sections 3 & 4, (the NEW graphic sections), if you have passed Section D at this point, and still need to pass Section C or E, you must do so in the current test format, or you will lose credit for your Section D…Uuhhh what???????

So, Veronica, correct me if I’m wrong (and boy, I hope I am), but if I do not pass my Section E (the only test I have remaining to pass) in the next 2 testing sessions, not only will I:

1) Lose credit for having already passed Section D, but

2) Have to take the new graphic grading & drainage (now called Section 4) AND

3) Have to take the new graphic site design (now called Section 3) and this is BECAUSE both of these will now contain material from the old Section D.**this part I’m still unclear on

 

But either way, the new tests will naturally cost more. So when I take the new grading & drainage test section, not only will I be tested on material that I have already passed, (Section D) but I will also be charged for it as well.

Not a good idea, CLARB. You already have the wrath of many landscape architects struggling to pass a test that is too expensive and in many ways completely irrelevant to the industry, not to mention & paying ridiculous fees for red-line reviews, etc….I could go on and on…..

 

[Jordan Lockman]

Take the first two sections, any way. Sections A & B are the same as(accepted in place of) the future 1 & 2, but the future test will cost more. If you have trouble with hand graphics wait to do the graphic sections after the change otherwise take them when it makes sense for your career.

If you don’t feel ready to take them wait, although there is plenty of study material for the current format and who knows what the next will look like.

[Wes Arola, RLA]

http://www.asla.org/land/LandArticle.aspx?id=32227

[Veronica Meadows]

Hi all,

It’s great to see the discussion on the changes to the L.A.R.E. I wanted to clarify a couple of things and answer any questions that you may have.

1. The exam will consist of 4 sections, all of which will be administered at computer test centers and will make the exam more accessible for candidates.
2. The content currently tested in graphic format will, in the new exam, consist of multiple-choice questions and advanced item types. Advanced item types require candidates to work with on-screen graphics. Examples of these new item types will be available in Spring 2012.
3. There will be two administrations of the current Multiple-choice exams (September 2011 and March 2012) and two administrations of the current Graphic exams (December 2011 and June 2012) prior to the transition to the new exam.
4. We are encouraging new candidates to take Sections A & B of the current exam as they will translate directly to Sections 1 and 2 in the new exam.
5. Additionally taking Sections A & B now will have financial benefits as well because the cost per section of the new exam will be higher as the development costs are spread over 4 sections versus 5 in the current exam.

I hope you find this information to be helpful. For additional information on the transition please visit the CLARB website. For further assistance please contact us by phone at 571-432-0332 or by email at info@clarb.org. You can also participate in our Facebook discussions.

 

I wish you all the best of luck on your pursuit of licensure!

 

Take care,

 

Veronica

[Dotty Daly]

I was looking on the CLARB website and look at what I found…https://www.clarb.org/CANDIDATES/ABOUT/Pages/2012LAREChanges.aspx

 

Sorry if someone posted about this already…

[Trace One]

government creates parks, creates social welfare programs that help thousands of disabled, elderly..How can you say the government does not create jobs? My salary, my dads salary, my brothers public health work as a new doctor in impoverished sections of america – these are all government created jobs..

I do not understand how anyone can say the government does not create jobs..the entire corn syrup industry is a government subsidized enterprise..NASA, (speaking of the Enterprise) and all the incredible discoveries of NASA, NOA…

I have heard Michelle Bachman say that, the gov doesn’t create jobs – she works for the government, her 23 foster kids made her a lot of government money….?????WTF, as they say..

[ALEX P]

Isn’t all design graphic design?  I’m just thinking of the checklist of the projects that I had at university:  Plans (text on there), sections (text saying whats going on in the sections), perspectives (captions), and concept statements (all text). Everything is about graphic communication.  Yes, I start a project thinking about what font I’m going to use, because yes, I think it is important.  For example the office I work now, we have character styles for all the documents we create in InDesign.  Thus the font has already been thought of, even before the project has started. Why can’t I care about font the same why i care about landscape architecture?  Are you really that lax about font where you work?

[Jason T. Radice]

I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. It’s not that there should not be some type of regulation, its they TYPE of regulation in that the QUANTIFICATION and inflexibility of plant lists are wrong way to approach this. And besides, shouldn’t LAs in a planning office make better use of their time and OUR money than counting little circles on a plan? You know, actually do some planning? Other factors such as design relevance, safety concerns, maintenance issues and the merits of the design. I’ve been in front of numerous municpal boards explaining just this idea for a variance application, especially with buildings with almost a perfect record of success. I was also suggesting that these regulations could be relaxed if the requirement of having LAs design and stamp the planting plans for submittal rather than allowing PEs or Architects to stamp them would ensure higher quality design and plant choices, freeing the rest of us to try new designs and acheive our design intent. How do you think you end up with the same 5 plants being used everywhere, the PE picks something off of a plant list and just plants a zillion of them. We’ve all seen it: ratty ‘blue rug’ junipers in parking lot islands with red maples plopped in (whose leaves are scalded and the bark split wide open), tall grasses conveniently placed at the corners of vehecular intersections creating dangerous blind corners (contractor: “well, they were small when we put them in!”), and  fescue…fescue…fescue.

 

[alland]

Most everyone in the industry knows that a license separates a designer and an architect. Engineering firms most certainly do. Design Build companies know more often than not, many of their bosses are either one. Help wanted ads usually specify Landscape/Architect or Designer or one of either. This is the way it is. Just because some individuals ‘perceive’ that no one gives a hey is not an excuse, at least for me.

I have given my sweat, blood and tears, and more tears (plus years) to pass the LARE and am two sections away from passing it. This makes me respect the title even more, and I dont care whether the ‘general public’ knows or cares.

I DO.

PS any advice on Sec. D?

[Jarrod D. Lee]

I think many are taking this discussion a bit to seriously.  As I stated before, I agree with Practice Laws.  I am merely trying to pointing out that the language needs to be more clearly defined.  I want to give one more example…Those of you who were in high school in the 80’s will probably remember this…If you get a girl pregnant you are a father, but to really be a father you have to take responsibility for the child.

 

By definition of TERMS (posted below) I am a Landscape Architect.  By definition of LAW, I am not a Landscape Architect.  I just feel that those of us who have chosen this profession should be more adamant about what qualifies one as a professional or an amateur.  I want to commend those who have passed the tests and can now refer to themselves, legally, as a Landscape Architect.  I must now go and study for those tests because I have Sections C and E in a couple of weeks.

 

Landscape Architect: One who performs or holds himself out as capable of performing any of the services or creative works within the definition of landscape architecture.

Landscape Architecture: Any service or creative work, the adequate performance of which requires
landscape architectural education, training and experience; the performance of professional services such as
consultation, investigation, research, associated planning, design, preparation of drawings, specifications and contract documents, and responsible supervision or construction management in connection with the development of land areas where, and to the extent that, dominant purpose of such services is the preservation, enhancement or determination of proper land uses, natural land features, ground cover and plantings, naturalistic and aesthetic values; the determination of settings, grounds and approaches for buildings and structures or other improvements; the determination of environmental problems of land relating to erosion, flooding, blight and other hazards; the shaping and contouring of land and water forms; the setting of grades, determination of drainage and providing for storm drainage systems where such systems do not require structural design of system components, and determination of landscape irrigation; the design of such tangible objects and features as are necessary to the purpose outlined herein, but shall not include the design of buildings or structures with separate and self-contained purposes such as are ordinarily included in the
practice of architecture or engineering.

[jennifer Bloch]

I’m new to this thread – but having recently and successfully taken the multi-choice sections of the LARE, I thought it was worth noting that while one may not need to be a member of the ASLA, the LARE still tests for ASLA codes of conduct. And until one has taken these tests and understands the process of passing them, one will not fully understand the value of earning the title Landscape Architect. It is something to be earned not just taken for whatever convenience…that’s all…

[mauiBob]

Let me get this straight…you go from Hawaii to Arizona and now live in Alaska?! Alas-freakin-ka? Chup, they should automatically give you a license for doing the unthinkable! Honestly, it would take a $150k/year salary for me to venture into Alaska. Hiking up the summit of Mt McKinley is the only thing I want to see there.

I didn’t take the exam until well into my 8th year in the profession. Never needed it or had the desire to be registered. I watched many of my co-workers take the exam and had to do retakes after retakes! I passed the entire LARE in one shot, mainly because I had been doing sections A, B and C for 8 years! Site design was so easy, I think I fell asleep during the testing period. My lowest score and struggles was with section D. Barely passed it, nonetheless, good enough. Personally, I find too many entry levels trying to pass the exam without enough training and knowledge. Most employers will pay for your first exam sitting. I have yet to pay a single penny for maintaining my license or paying for that exam!

 

FYI, I’ve seen the Chupacabra from my nights living in Scottsdale. Photo below. No more Chupacabra for you, but watchout for the Sasquatch.