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    I think it’s really important for A/E students to be exposed and be trained on how the real world works.  I’ve been on several projects where the project manager thinks as long as the drawings are out on time and the project is under budget, he/she did a good job.  Project management isn’t as simple as that and neither is running a business.  Your typical project manager probably learned the ropes from the guy before him and that guy learned the ropes from another guy before him…I see a lot of management styles that are outdated and lack some of the progressive thinking that B-schools are teaching to their students.  Unless you have the drive to go to B-school or happens to be a naturally enlighten leader or happens to work for one, you will not be exposed to those ideas or how to run a business/how to manage a project/how to be a leader.  The vicious cycle will continue.

     

    Design is great and knowing the process and having all these layers of thinking is wonderful, but so much happens beyond the design.  Students get sucked into what I like to call “design fantasy-land” where everything is about the design and the process and….yada…yada…yada…and that’s wonderful and all, but schools should better prepare their students for what is out there.  Tell them straight up: “You will have to work with other people”, “You will have to deal with budgets”, “It’s not always about the landscape”, “You will have to work with people you don’t like”…the list goes on.  Design schools should do a better job at balancing theory with practice.    

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    Oops…had the wrong link…

    #165263
    Mandy
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    Ah yes…the dilemma of having a crappy job or no job at all…I’ve pondered the exact same question for the past 1.5 yr. coming very close to quitting multiple times.  In the end, the pros of staying at a crappy job outweighed the cons.  The logic goes something like this:

    1. Crappy pay is better than no pay.  I would never quit a job unless I have another one lined up.  If I quit, I’m just letting the crappy employer get away scot-free.  If I stay, they still have to have pay me and my benefits.
    2. The longer I stay, the more projects I work on, the more I can add to my resume.  I’m doing it for myself, not them.
    3. Giving 110% is a thing of the past, you get what you pay for.
    4. I work not because I enjoy working or what I do, but because it funds my expensive hobbies.

    Think of it this way, you are using them as much as they are using you, makes things easier to swallow. 
     

    #165403
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    ^ Like ^

    #165757
    Mandy
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    ditto

    #166086
    Mandy
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    Dude, take a chill pill.  No need for the hostility.

    #166099
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    I agree with Mike, define reasonable.  Is someone who’s doing project management work but still getting paid a drafter’s wage reasonable (victim of an invisible promotion)?  Especially in this economy, employers have their pick of a very large pool of applicant and everyone is desperate for a foot in the door.  Are you willing to put your job on the line and b*!@$ and moan to your boss about being overworked?  No, so you suck it up and take up smoking and drinking and popping a couple of Prozac before going to work everyday.  It sucks for those who are unemployed, but those who are employed aren’t that much better off.  The employed, in this economy, are often way overworked and way under-compensated.

    #166179
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    I’m Garden Green…and I’ll have to agree with Thomas…creepily accurate…

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #166183
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    Ah yes, of course, cause everyone knows everyone…just love updating my resume, reaffirms the fact that I am indeed overworked and underpaid, but who isn’t???  On top of that I don’t even get a cool title, what’s up with that?(My rant for the day).  Thanks for the advice and Happy Holidays everyone!

    #166186
    Mandy
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    Thanks for the pointers.  How much do these titles count anyways?  My title, if anything, would be landscape designer, but as a designer I have managed projects.  My office doesn’t really give out titles, at least not for me, so if a hiring manager looks at my resume and see landscape designer instead of PM or associate or whatever, would he/she be less impressed even though I have done work that a PM would do?

    #166306
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    Hi Jason, I recently came across your article.  Very insightful!  Too bad it’s placed at the very end of the magazine…

    #166414
    Mandy
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    sounds super delicious and economical.

    #166411
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    I think…how will this meet ADA in SF.

    #166453
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    In the heavily political/red tape environment we live in today…that would be quite a superhuman feat to accomplish.

    #166461
    Mandy
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    Take classes at your local junior/city college.

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