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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
can’t disagree with anything you said, Rob…Reading Glenn Greenwald of Salon and Andy Revkins DotEarth is a recipe for complete depression, until you read the comments on their blogs, and that really pushes you over the edge..
How about the new state of the Oceans report….Altho the news of stopping the dam in Patagonia is a temporary…[Read more] -
Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
I think there is still hope to ameliorate man’s impact on the earth, Rob, but I am not the least interested in cars – ‘personal vehicles’ as you call them – totally unecessary, and bad for the earth..
and did you see the revised population estimates for the end of the century are up by a billion – 10 billion now..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
we did solve the energy crisis – it’s just that industry and corporate america and their political purveyors will not let it happen..Technololgy is not the issue with reducing impact on our warming earth – it is political will..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
but I have children that I love..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
hee! I like that, Heather..It’s only once a month or so, I really like to rant pointlessly at on-line imaginary foes…Better than taking it out on my dog..
no ranting today, going to a Clarence Thomas fundraiser! there will be enough racist rants and comedians in black face for everyone! -
Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
sad, Alex.. and mr. schmid, unfortunately ‘society’ means we are in this together..your choices affect all of us….and our children…
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
You are defending FRACKING???Right.. and you know, if you guys would vote to raise taxes on rich people a quintillionth of a cent, instead of adhering to some amorphous ideology that ALWAYS ends up with more money for banks and oil companies, social security and medicare would BE FINE!!
Right now we are paying for at least two wars fought FOR the…[Read more] -
Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
yeah, Rob, it would be funny to compare these posters to that
1925 evolution trial, but somehow it ain’t….funny, that is.. ..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
alan, as I said above, ‘green’ is a scientific construct..at it’s base..Is there some reason you don’t understand that, and are unwilling to participate in a societal attempt to be less damaging to other species in the world we share?
We may have the details wrong, politics n o doubt has taken center stage, but the underlying concept is…[Read more] -
Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
ps, green is NOT just some slogan – it is a scientific construct, for goodness sakes..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
nrschmid you are unsurprisingly unenlightened..scientifically uniformed and focused on greenbacks in your pocket, no further..
Like Bill McKibben said about the Gulf Oil disaster and Species die-off, , it doesn’t matter if the oil is burned or extracted and used for fueling cars, etc…It is still BAD for the environment because that method of e…[Read more] -
Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
Alan, you can shop at Wal-mart because of government initiatives…You eat cheap beef at McDonalds because of government initiatives..
No?
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
actually the tar sands extraction is heavily subsized by the government, unfortunately. There are direct tax subsidies, as well as road use, environmental pollution that does not figure into any calculations of cost (tar sand extraction is extremely pollution process of both the air and water..), and the intense use of water that the process…[Read more]
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
yes, it is fairly complex to determine appropriate levels..and then if one gets the feeling of collusion between government and private, like how Goldman Sachs et al have infiltrated government and skewed policies in their favor, so that our tax dollars are going into Lloyd Blankfeins pocket – or in the case of Dick Cheney, our tax dollars are…[Read more]
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
but the concept is incorrect. Producing goods needs roads – it needs safety,order and stability. You cannot take that out of the economic equation.. Amtrak may not make a profit, but wht is the price of the social benefit of having a society that is mobile, that is connected – and Amtraks profitability has a lot to do with the private use of…[Read more]
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
how can anyone say transportation jobs aren’t sustainable? How can you say jobs reviewing site plans for small cities don’t create wealth through standards – it has been proven over and over..
National parks..NASA…how are these not sustainable? they create wealth for the society..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
i agree, no green jobs – like I said, the British house insulation subsidies have saturated the market – we are absolutely untouched, because repubs don’t believe in green..
thanks for the 1$ per person – still, all the tarp money, given to each resident..whatever..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
government creates parks, creates social welfare programs that help thousands of disabled, elderly..How can you say the government does not create jobs? My salary, my dads salary, my brothers public health work as a new doctor in impoverished sections of america – these are all government created jobs..
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Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
ps. the TARP act has kept my DOT repairing roads, improving roads, so those are a lot of jobs on the record, from the TARP act..
But I always felt that instead of bailing out the banks, if they just gave every man woman and child in the US (350 million, at last count) a million bucks, we would spend it and the economy would recover much cheaper…[Read more] -
Trace One replied to the topic Where are Obama's Green Jobs? in the forum GENERAL DISCUSSION 14 years, 11 months ago
I completely do not understand the ‘governments don’t create jobs ” mantra..it simply does not make sense to me..Can someone please explain it to me? My dad was a diplomat (good job, good work, his whole life, after WWI service..) I have worked for local or state governments for twenty to thirty years enforcing environmental regs, etc..I read…[Read more]
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