[Steve_White]

Going through school I wanted this to be a focus, at least this was a focus i was most interested in. I did a semester abroad doing a case study of a course in the Netherlands. Unfortunately as I came to find out I should have started at age 10 running a mower in order to be up to speed with where i should have been.

I will leave the designing to the good ones, I will just show up and try to shoot another low 80’s round

[Steve_White]

personally I don’t see how anything in this thread is helping the profession. registered or not we all love this profession and choose to do it and we all know it wasn’t for the money.

 

LA work is so vast that everyone here also knows how difficult it is to explain what we do(as a whole) because their are so levels and facets. 

 

As my professor told me (an RLA) in 2nd year studio we are all LA’s and as soon as we start thinking like LA’s the easier the program will become.

 

I am not suprised in these time people get testy about what to call yourself.  Like nick said earlier. I have used a number of titles when speaking casually. Never would I advertise for LA work with out the R.

 

I too worked hard for my BLA, and I am an LA working as a Landscape Designer who will someday be working towards becoming and RLA.  

[Steve_White]

He had it right all along.

[Steve_White]

haha.  Dam you Madison Ave!!

what do they say?  Don’t hate the player hate the game.

 

And I agree with what you say.  But is there nothing to the fact that when you dress sharp, comb your hair(seriously no pun here), get a nice shave it makes you feel good and more confident. Even if you have been sold that image, I still feel it.  If i were to where a t-shirt to work everyday I would think my behavior and attitude would be wearing a t-shirt as well.  

[Steve_White]

Maybe it is the east coast in me, but personally I would not have a beard if I was job hunting.  I think having a beard is a bigger mark on your character(good or bad it is noted) than not having a beard.

 

but if done well, it can give a dignified look.

[Steve_White]

“You can be a Landscape Architect and also a painter, furnishing designer, illustrator, etc. etc. but if you have not passed the LARE then you are a painter, furnishing designer, illustrator, not a Landscape Architect.”

 

 

I get what you are saying here and I agree to some extent.  Even though I am not licensed I am a Landscape Architect.  I went to school for LA, I read about LA work, I learn about LA.  Just because I can’t professionally collect money to be called a landscape architect doesn’t mean I am not one.  

 

I am saying its a frame of mind, clearly there are no laywers who have not passed the bar. But there is legal advice from lots of people.

 

Now, since moving to CO I have since stopped calling myself or telling people that I am a landscape architect b/c most of the time the title is not understood or not respected.  So now I advertise myself as a landscape designer(really helps get a foot in the door with design build’s). that is more in tune with the attitude here but I am still a Landscape architect. 

 

sooo when will design firms be hiring in denver again? its been 3 years and I am still waiting…

[Steve_White]

what aboot Canadia?

[Steve_White]

God forbid you have a family in this career.

I know this doesn’t help answer the posters questions but i want to add that I have had this conversation multiple times with family over the holidays.

 

When will the time come when companies (not just LA) realize the day of low balling employees and working them to the bone with the threat of job loss is going to bounce back. How long can employees go through with putting up with unfair requirements to maintain employment. There is nothing worse than being outcast as NOT a team player because you had to go to the dentist or the doctor or pick up kids.

 

I have interned with LA firms while in school, while it was still ‘good’. but since gradutating I have been fighting to find design build designer position that matters to an employer.  Even if Denver had positions (LA) open I am overlooked with a BLA from NY to the CSU or CU students.

 

part of me wants to learn spanish, and work my hands to the bone b/c the guys in the field often times make more than the designer(non sales position). While I love this profession and doing this work, I need to be able to make a living. I want to feel that I can pay my bills and put some away for the future. but i don’t see that happening and thats scary.

[Steve_White]

I am not sure to think of this as acceptance or pessimistic.

I kind of agree with what you are saying. The world can feel very David vs Goliath meets ignorance is bliss.

For example: Compact fluorescent light bulbs

They use energy more efficiently and they last longer, giving the impression that they are good for the environment. which they are, and they give the customer a sense of fulfillment in using less energy.

But what about the root cause? why isn’t that the focus? theoretically why does everyone have to buy light bulbs to save the whales and snails, when the power plant is the core cause of pollution(lets say its coal…..for this to work).

I have always felt that you can protest and say all you want, but for the most part you will not get your way but it is important to have your part heard.

So i can see how ‘it doesn’t matter if there are tighter regulations’ the root cause is the problem not the lack of regulation.

the most important thing is we all live good lives and reach the fulfillment we all want.

[Steve_White]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/james-carvilles-oil-outburst-10746347

this is the type of reaction I would loved to have heard 30 days ago.

[Steve_White]

I think it is difficult for it to hit home for some people across the country.

This is site is a special case of people who would naturally keep tabs on it closely.

I like the obama quote “plug the dam hole”

[Steve_White]

“He points out that the New Urbanists were fiercely opposed and often mocked as “being slaves to worn-out traditions — like walking from home to work.””

this is just funny. a bunch of white collars standing in a room making fun of the guy who wants to “walk home from work”

[Steve_White]

I am wondering the same thing nick. i have been keeping tabs on the story but i have also been thinking why isn’t this a HUGE DEAL. why is this not #1 ands always on top in the news. why is it that news reports on what is happening so “oh this is whats happening….what a shame”

This is a game changer imo. we will talking and dealing with this till most of us on here die.

http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/05/oil-spill-bp-grand-isle-beach
I offer this article.

I am just not feeling the outcry that i think there should be over a debacle of such scale.

[Steve_White]

This is what I like to see around here.

thanks nick

[Steve_White]

“They know that they will see another “boom” just as they knew that they would see another “slump.”

Just hearing that is relieving. I know it, I have been told before, I have said it myself. The difficult part of unemployment or employment challenges is that it can begin to feel like there is no end. but there is ups and downs good and bad.

strikes and gutters as the dude said

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